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Stay At Home Wives: The New Status Symbol?

Stay At Home Wives: The New Status Symbol?

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Add this to the list of decisions that women are now criticized for with regards to their life decisions. If it isn’t the Mommy Wars between the stay at home and working moms, then before that it was the women who chose to get an education and work for a living instead of choosing to settle down and get married with children. Today we have Stay At Home Wives. Ahhh, let the games begin.

I’ve read much about this “phenomenon” this week and still scratching my head, asking, “what’s the big deal?” Granted, I have not held a REAL full time position since 2005, mainly due to graduate school but in some ways I plan to be a stay at home wife. I see no problems with that decision.

Before leaving my last job, I told the pregnant intern that I would be a stay at home mom/wife once we started our family and/or moved back to NYC. She gasped and then asked me what would be the point of finishing school? I exclaimed, because I can! Bless her heart.

My husband and I live on one income which makes our financial situation more secure than a two income household where if one person loses a job, the other must shoulder the burden until the other spouse obtains new employment.

Why knock something that works for someone else?  This isn’t 5 steps back for the feminist women movement as some have said outright, this is a choice, and we should be happy that more women have the choice to work, not work, work inside the home, work outside the home or hell, sit at home eating Bon Bons all day while curled up on the couch.

Stay At Home Wives can get involved in volunteer projects, pursue hobbies, go on vacation, pursue interests they may not have been able to in the past all while running their homes like well oiled machines.

The vitriolic comments I’ve seen all over the blogosphere insulting these women is frankly unbelievable, especially from other women and the men who have the nerve to say they wouldn’t “let” their wives stay at home:

Meggan writes

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Of course they’re “strangely happy”…they don’t do anything! Why not at least go out and volunteer? If you have the “luxury” to stay at home while your husband works, at least give something back to the community through charity work!

NY1974 writes:

I’m not judging anyone’s right to stay home if they can well afford it, but I find it hard to believe that anyone with half a brain could find fulfillment in housekeeping and#38; errands. Just coming off an extended …more

I’m not judging anyone’s right to stay home if they can well afford it, but I find it hard to believe that anyone with half a brain could find fulfillment in housekeeping and#38; errands. Just coming off an extended, and rainy, long weekend, I can’t imagine staying home each and#38; every day with nothing to strive for except a clean house, paid bills and#38; the ‘status’ that goes along with having a well-paid husband who doesn’t mind if you leach off of him. After 2 days of an empty house, I found myself reading aloud to my dog and watching the clock for Monday to come. I would be bored senseless if that were my everyday routine. But, as my granfather used to say, numbskulls are easily amused.

Gregg writes

These couples are really deluding themselves if they think people can’t see through this bullcrap. It doesn’t take 8 hours to clean a house or cook dinner or to do the shopping. I mean really, how dirty does a house g …more

These couples are really deluding themselves if they think people can’t see through this bullcrap. It doesn’t take 8 hours to clean a house or cook dinner or to do the shopping. I mean really, how dirty does a house get with no kids and one spouse gone most of the day? It’s one thing to stay home and take care of kids, but these women are just lazy.

Paul writes:

My stepmom is a "stay at home wife" and I can honestly attest to the fact that women who do this are simply taking advantage of men. She also considers herself to be a "feminist." He pays someone to clean the house, …more

My stepmom is a "stay at home wife" and I can honestly attest to the fact that women who do this are simply taking advantage of men. She also considers herself to be a "feminist." He pays someone to clean the house, so she just sits around all day online and watching TV. Men beware: There are a lot of selfish women out there with a sense of self-entitlement that won’t think twice about jumping on the chance to be a stay at home bum. You’ll feel taken advantage of and come to resent her for what she is: a parasite. A healthy dose of reality is needed immediately before the parasite can fully latch on and begin eating the man from the inside, eventually leaving him an empty husk of a man.

But let’s play Devil’s Advocate for a moment and ask some hard questions:

Do these women have a pre-nuptial agreement in place?  Post-nuptial agreement?  I am ALL for staying at home but let’s get real for a moment.  Should the husband decide he no longer wants to be married, then what’s the back up plan?  A man is NOT a financial plan and Prince Charming isn’t Coming!. Are they keeping their resumes updated by keeping one foot in their chosen fields?

In the event of the wage earning spouse’s demise, is she provided for in the will?  Are the assets in BOTH both names, IE is her name also on the deed to the home and not just the mortgage?  Both names on all bank accounts?  Check on that.  Does she have access to and full disclosure around all household and personal finances?  Does she know if she has also been factored into 401k contributions, IE, is the husband making enough contributions for them to both retire comfortably or will they be eating cat food in retirement?

These are questions that would make being a true stay at home wife a tolerable situation for me.  If she simply looked at her husband as a means to earn a living or create and live a certain lifestyle without consideration for the above-mentioned then I would question her financial security as women need to earn more money than men.

Question: Do you think these women are freeloaders or doing simply what works for them?  What about the feminist movement?  Have we taken a step back women women choosing ot stay at home sans children or any real responsibilities?

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  • Emel5070

    People just need to mind their own business. If everyone would take care of their own life and family and quit focusing on others’ lifestyles, the world might be a more productive place. Who gives a shit what anyone else does for a living?! It’s THEIR life! Concentrate on yourself and quit acting like a bunch of squabbling kids in a pissing contest.

  • Rower212

    jealous skanks put them down. jealous they cant have a family, enjoy it and a husband who earns enough to allow it.  jealous

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TTUWKQMOCZQT3SYHOPASZ7JELI Carolyn

    I’m a house-wife and it feels wonderful.

  • Meesh

    My work friends and I all do very well, we’re lucky to have great jobs. It was very satisfying for me to be able to pay my mortgage by myself when my husband and I separated to work out some of our marital woes, and now that we are back together we keep our money completely separate.  It’s great having power in the relationship to say “You don’t want me to buy that?  Well, too bad, it’s my money”.  I feel really bad for women who don’t make their own money, but to each their own.  I personally would never let a man (even my husband) make any financial decisions for me or have financial control.  No matter how great of a person anyone (man or woman) is, if they decide they want someone more than you, you better be able to stand on your own.   I have several friends who worked who quit to become SAHM’s and they are very isolated and 5 out of the 6 were divorced after 2 years, and now they are working again anyway, they just have crappier jobs because they left the workforce.  I’m also not trying to be mean but their conversation was so boring and child-focused when they were SAHMs no one wanted to talk to them.  I went to some BS home party with a bunch of rich bored housewives the other day and wanted to jab a pen in my eye over their conversation.  Then they were trying to get me to sell crappy jewelry in their pyramid scam.   

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      Meesh I think you and I are long lost siblings!   I could have very well written that myself!

  • Mai

    I don’t think think these women are lazy at all. It’d be one thing if couples who co-habitated shared the responsibilities equally but all too frequently it is the woman who ends up doing the cooking, cleaning, etc in addition to holding down a job. It’s called a “second shift” and I think women (or men) who are able to stay home are able to bring the family together. 

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  • catherine

    It's work for some women to stay at home. They spend hours coupon matching so they can spend 50 cents for a bottle of listerine or score free name brand shampoo or razor that day. They bake their own bread, plan menus, grow their own tomatos..etc. You can sure bet they are washing cloth diapers, making baby food( at a huge cost savings) and drying bushets of apples that they found on sale-in the oven of course to .spare the expense of buying a food dehydrator Then there is the child care they don't have to pay for..etc. ..leeches no. Lazy..no.

  • Jaime

    Each couple is different. If a couple works, have savings whether joint,separate or a mix of both, they can both ride out hard economic times if both of them have had continuous jobs throughout the years, and one of them loses a job they can ride out harsh economic times if they had been previously financially savvy and saved money all along.

    Employers are more impressed with you if you had recent work even if you got laid off or did something productive like volunteer rather than stayed at home. Employers tended to ask me what I did while I was unemployed. IMO , I don't care if you are a two income or one income household, both of you will be fine if you have SAVED money along the way.

    Yes I do have a bias towards two income households, but at the same time, frugal is frugal no matter what household you belong to. I also think that it would be easier to worry less and not to have a burden on your shoulder if you didn't have to support another person.

  • Jaime

    You assume that just because the husband/wife have both names in their bank accounts, 401(k)s, & other finance accounts that things are "safe" but that's not the case. If one spouse wants out, its too easy for that spouse to wipe out an account, and for that other spouse to be vulnerable. Just because a couple works doesn't mean that they're less frugal than a one income household.

    Its wrong for you to judge based on that. Pre-nups aren't always held up in court, sometimes if the woman works and not the man, the judge makes the woman pay alimony to the man. When my stepdad and mom wanted to divorce, he wiped out their joint savings accounts, I will never have a joint savings account with anyone, no thanks. Its too easy for someone else to take out your savings should they decide they no longer want you.

    I don't believe BF would do this to me, even though our finances are separate,but I'm not blind to the realities of life.

  • missmel

    I have been a stay at home mother/ wife since I was in high school. When my son was old enough to attend school I went to college to focus on myself. Then several years later I had another child and stay home and care for her as well. She is soon off to pre K and I will return to my personal goals. I understand not everyone has the luxury of choosing to do so, and feel blessed I have. Through the years of being at home I have ran myself ragged with PTO mom,charity events and fund-raising, baseball, football and golf for my son. Keeping a perfect home and cooked meals. I feel like it is my job to handle al of the house hold chores since I am home most of the day. On top of that, preparing my youngest for basic skills for school, trying to be my husbands sex goddess… It is the most full time responsibility I could ever imagine. I dislike women who stay home and can’t keep it kept, and expect the husband to come home and take over with the kids, are you serious? I look forward to getting some independence back, but have enjoyed installing my personal morals and family values in my children. I don’t believe a woman has a reason to stay home if no children are home, then again I don’t mean to offend anyone, its only my opinion.

  • mermaidbride

    SAHW here- I suffer from a chronic health problem and having a full-time at a job wouldn't work- I am always going for health treatments but hope to get the health problem to a manageable way. I work part-time now as a freelancer and business is slow- working 10 hours a week but I also network and attend my profession's conferences. My doctor and husband want me to relax and reduce stress, which will certainly help in dealing with my medical issue. And if I do get pregnant, I will have to stay at home anyway because of my health condition. People who stay at home and take care of the domestic front are not a drain on society, they can mentor kids, volunteer at non-profits, and serve their communities during working hours.

  • susan

    I am a stay at home wife and it is not out of choice. we move to different countries due to my husband's job and it's tough to get a temporary jobs. Also volunteering is not a option in most countries due to the language. Do i get bored ? hell yes.

  • toledogirl

    women are supposed to be at home.we end up with two jobs when we work,home and the outside job.The wife should run the home and the man should provide for it.you end up with a couple who never see each other ,growing apart when the wife works.that's what's wrong these days..women trying to act like the man and the man letting it go on.

  • gold0742

    >>Do these women have a pre-nuptial agreement in place? back up plan? A man is NOT a financial plan and Prince Charming isn’t Coming!. keeping their resumes updated?
    ## It would be Interesting to do pre-nuptial for military soldiers, isn't it? if it's getting tough, just quit, no big deal. Why not??
    Soldiers keep their commitment and promise till death, why not housewives? it's not even close to death, Geeze…
    Yes, financial planning is always important, but do NOT FORCE happily married wives into Slavery!… by Looking Down Upon them!!!

    Govt can make more TAX $$ if women work outside, while twice amount of people do the same jobs, wages are cut in half… they call this modern women's Liberation! Oh yeah! What a Slavery!
    Google it:
    Taken in Hand
    women liberation movement Aaron Russo Alex Jones
    60 Minutes Australia Under the thumb
    Surrendered Wife by Laura Doyle
    Fascinating Womanhood by Helen Andelin
    Antifeminism in Wikipedia

  • Sarah

    I think being a stay at home wife/mom is a full time job. I came from a home where my mother was home and my husband came from a home with a working mother, and I have a much closer relationship with my mother. My husband loves having me home, he has nothing to do when he gets home, the house is spotless, the laundry is done, dinner is cooked, his clothes are ready for work, his lunch is packed, all he has to do is spend time with our family. I honestly think the reason divorce right is so high is because both spouses are working and don't have time for each other, they grow apart, they have their own lives not one life together. Also there is no way you can be the best mother and best worker it is impossible no matter what anybody says there is no way that you can give 100% at home and give 100% in the office, and the who suffers the kids. With nobody at home the kids are shipped off the day care so somebody else is raising your kids. I am not saying a woman has to be at home but somebody needs to be there for the family, to keep everything together.

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  • Samantha

    What happens if God forbid your husband falls ill? What happens to your income? Your resume? Could you SAHMs & SAHWs enter the workforce and support the both of you and your children if you had to? What happens if he dies?

  • puppymom

    Hi there! I'm a stay at home fiance and couldn't be happier. My days are full of doing thing that I actually enjoy (trying new recipes, making jewelry, walking the dogs, yoga, reading, writing, getting together with friends, etc.). It's kind of crazy that people act like not working a 9-5 = lazy. I'm far from lazy… before deciding to stay at home I owned my own business and the reason that I decided to be a SAHW is because my fiance makes in a month what I used to make in a year. Why on earth would I bust my butt doing something that I don't enjoy when it doesn't even make a dent in our income? I'm spending every moment of my day doing what I choose to do and enjoying my life. So anyone out there who thinks that stay at home wives are just lazy and must be bored all the time or have no goals in life…. you're wrong.

  • http://www.bellydancematernity.com/ John

    I think it is the women's individual choice if they want to be a stay at home mom, work full time, or try and juggle both. The options is there for whatever the individual wants to do with their lives and should not be judged by which path they decide is best for them and their family.

  • http://missmmoney.blogspot.com/ Miss M

    I'd be OK having a stay at home husband, my other half is currently out of work and stays home all day. Problem is, he's a lousy house husband! Doesn't cook, doesn't clean, lousy at laundry….I truly wish he had the inclination for homemaking cause I don't, well other than cooking. I think a partner can contribute to the family in non-monetary ways and support whatever arrangement works for a couple. Would I love to stay home and not have to deal with the headaches of a career, definitely, but unless we win the lottery it's not in the cards. I don't see myself staying at home while my husband works to support me, it doesn't work for me. I pride myself on my independence, I get a certain pleasure out of knowing I am the main breadwinner. I look forward to the day when stay at home dads are just as common as stay at moms.

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  • http://www.awomansblog.com Tawnya

    Ginger – this has been a fascinating discussion. One thing I wish people could take away from this is that, as women, we should support each others decisions regardless of what they are. For me, feminism should be about choice. The choice to make of life what one desires – not based on what society dictates, whether that be working or not working. By casting stones or making snide comments or snap judgments about certain choices we certainly don’t support women’s rights.

    Kudos to such a stimulating post!

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  • http://www.awomansblog.com Tawnya

    Honestly, I do get bored sometimes, but not from lack of stuff to do. I miss the accomplishments, the communication with adults that I had when I worked out of the house.

    I remember working full time, going to grad school full time and raising my son (at that time the only one) and I managed to clean house, cook, all that. I was busy – no denying it. But now that my ‘office’ is at home and my ‘work’ is all house related, it seems like the work never ends. There is always some new thing to do, project to tackle around the house, etc. I do things when I can to keep my mind nimble. Right now, I am learning how to speak German and writing, but I don’t get to do it as much as I would like since I never get to ‘punch the clock’ and call it a day on my job. But then – what mom does.

    Having stayed at home, worked from home and worked out of the home I have a unique perspective and can say without judgement that being a mom/wife is a big job and is hard and will keep you busy no matter how you do it.

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  • Ginger

    “Bottom line, my value as a person isn’t based on how much money I make any more than it is based on how clean our house is or how good my casseroles are. And I certainly don’t have to be superwife, working a full-time job outside of the house and also doing full-time chores at home, too, just to prove to other women that my husband and I are “equal” partners in our marriage. Feminism isn’t “you can work — just so long as as you still get your ‘chore”

    Well said. It doesnt have to be a staunchly doing one thing to prove that you’re a woman. It’s about the choice to do so…or not. And nothing I do defines that. I am a woman worthy of anything in this world simply because I am, not because who I am not.

    Oh yea, just because I am the author of this blog doesnt mean I dont have an opinion. I do. Dont let that sway you from stating yours.

  • http://www.allaboutappearances.info Meg

    To everyone,

    What a heated discussion, huh? Thanks to Ginger for bringing up this subject. I think it’s an issue that we as a society have only started to really discuss. The “mommy wars” are still a hot topic, but with more couples not having kids or delaying having kids, I think this discussion is far from over. There are, after all, so many issues here (financial, social, marital, personal, feminist, etc.) and it’s bound to be heated since I think, underneath it all, the big question is how do we measure our value and that of other women. In questioning each other’s decisions, it’s easy for us all to feel like our value is questioned.

    However, I think the importance of the feminist movement isn’t simply that we can wear pants, use contraceptives, work “male” jobs, or even get paid equally for equal work. For me, at least, feminism is about knowing that I — and every other woman — has inherent value as a human being not one bit less than a man. That is not to say that I don’t have a lot of respect for the superwives and especially supermoms out there. Some women like that life. Some women have to live that life regardless. Either way, it definitely can be a tough job (though to assume that it’s tougher than my life is also a big assumption since we can never truly walk in another’s shoes). Some people’s idea of fun is climbing Mount Everest; we praise those who make it, but none of us are any less for not climbing it.

    Bottom line, my value as a person isn’t based on how much money I make any more than it is based on how clean our house is or how good my casseroles are. And I certainly don’t have to be superwife, working a full-time job outside of the house and also doing full-time chores at home, too, just to prove to other women that my husband and I are “equal” partners in our marriage. Feminism isn’t “you can work — just so long as as you still get your ‘chores’ done”, or vice versa. The true feminist revolution will have arrived when women can choose to do different work instead of just more work.

    And then, maybe we can have a revolution for the guys so that they can be stay-at-home husbands and dads without society treating them even worse than us SAHWs.

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  • http://www.allaboutappearances.info Meg

    Brianna,

    Re: #1, You said, “First off, “they” are not affording to stay home, the working spouse is ‘affording’ it, and the stay at home is reaping the benefits, that right there creates inequality.” That and similar comments are insulting because they imply — if not accuse that — SAHWs leech off their husbands. I don’t have to make as much as my husband to be an equal partner in our marriage (or any money, for that matter).

    Re: #2, Yes, doing chores is one thing. Some women can be superwives, both working outside of the home and coming home to do chores — often for both people. And yes, others have to let things slide a bit and I don’t judge anyone for a messy house! However, I’m not one of those women and I don’t want to be — even if I’m not Martha Stewart, either.

    However, there are a number of other things that I do for my husband in addition to more traditional household duties like cleaning. For example, I garden and tend to the yard, I care for our chickens, I find ways to save money, I research many of our purchases, I research political candidates and issues for the two of us, I read up on things that may help in out in work (and just generally make myself a walking encyclopedia), I’ve done web site work for him, I’ve helped him build radios for his job when he was overloaded, I help him edit some of his business correspondence, I fill out paperwork for him (his handwriting is pretty bad), I take care of my health and try to stay fit, I plan our social life, I fetch things for him, I deal with any roommate issues if there are any on a given day, I do the compost, I hang clothes, I cheerlead him, I network for him (I helped get him his current job), I help file paperwork, I run errands…the list of little things then runs on and on and on and can include things as small as filling his water bottle up before we go to chorus, but it’s a lot of little stuff that he appreciates. And there are plenty odd projects to keep me busy, too. On his last business trip I stayed home and repainted the trim in the living room (it really needed it). And heck, giving up my original career plans to stay here have allowed him to pursue his (and he was much more excited about his than I was about mine). And on top of that, I also work online as a writer, community manager, online video host, wiki admin, etc. etc. etc. The pay is almost nonexistent for that stuff, but I’m not doing it for the money and I’m glad to have the opportunity to work on those things. Some people volunteer at nursing homes, I write about ways to save money and look great for less.

    Re: #3, When my husband gets home from work, I’m there for him. He doesn’t come home to an empty house because I had to work late. We don’t have to worry about our vacation days lining up. A lot of the time he works from our home office, so I do see a lot of him then, even if he’s busy a lot of that time. Sometimes I even go with him on business trips so we can spend time together when he’s done with the day’s work, not to mention that I can keep him company on long drives. And because I do what I do, he doesn’t have to worry about those things when he gets home. My husband puts in a lot of hours at work, which he gets paid well for at least, but he’s able to make those hours because I take care of other things for him. And because he works the hours that he does, we value our time together even more.

    I hope that answered your questions.

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  • Ginger

    Brianna, that really doesnt work on me. After close to 60 comments on this post alone, I am more than open to a debate. If you can’t take my opinion as the blog author pointing out a few things in your post, it just means the kitchen got too hot. You’re more than welcome to excuse yourself. But please, have a seat, if you can stand the heat.

    Now on to your comment….

    “It only becomes an issue when the SAHW attempts to justify it by saying that housework/caring for their working spouse/etc “are like a full time job”?

    Why do you care? Why do you use their comments as a measuring stick for your life? Yes I am the blog author but I also happen to have an opinion. This inspires debate. I dont believe in remaining neutral. I have women who comment here who stand behind their opinions. I am one of them. I inspire all of you to come in here and rip me a new one, respectfully of course.

    So again, why does someone else’s choice have to color your or anyone else’s experience? If I chose to abandon all the goals in my journal and sit at home and eat bon bons because I want to clean house, plan my menus and make sure I get to all the things I long to do then how does that color your situation? Yes if I were staying at home ALL THE TIME with no outside endeavors then yes I would have more time to do laundry, cook, keep the house clean etc etc. Keep it real, the women who spend more time at home have more time to attend to the home.

    Im not attacking you, I just have a valid question based on my observations of your interactions. Why does anopposing choice validated using reasoning that you wouldnt have to color your or anyone else’s experiences?

    I am one of those kids who did not work in college but I had a job as a resident assistant where I got free housing. I did not work in graduate school because I respect the fact that I am not built to manage school and full time work. Part time yes but school was more important and I did not do well at juggling both. Does that make my decision any less than the woman who goes FT, has kids a hubby and a home? No. It doesnt. We are different women with different choices.

    This is what I try to inspire here on the blog through these debates. I want us to come together and realize that we are all individuals making decisions about our lives, however we choose to justify them, because they work for us. And, just because mine is different than yours, doesn’t make it any less and it isn’t supposed to be a measuring stick for yours.

    So please spare me the sarcastic rewording of my question as that reverse psych doesnt work on me. I have a Masters in the discipline and I see it coming a mile away. State your opinion and back it up. Simple.

    I look forward to your response.

  • http://www.awomansblog.com Tawnya

    LOL! I have to say I understand your comment, but having been on both sides of the issue (I worked out of the home MUCH longer than I have been at home)I can honestly say it really does take all day to do those things.

    Why? I have no idea. It just does. Perhaps, its because I am constantly picking up after the children all day. And I cook (or at least prepare) 3 meals that all have to be washed up after. And there is NO extra time for me to do a lot of those things you mentioned.

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  • Brianna

    Ginger, you first!

    I too have many days where I’d love to sit at home, get the house in perfect shape, and catch up on my reading. I think you are exactly right, some are able and some find it challenging, which is all I was trying to convey. I still do not understand the equation of two working people, minus one working person, equals BOTH having more free time, but I guess that’s not up for discussion here (my mistake!).

    As far as the respect thing goes, if you just want to stay at home, are able to because of your husband’s work ethic and admit it, that’s totally fine with everyone I’m sure. I can say with 100% honesty that I respect it in its own right. It only becomes an issue when the SAHW attempts to justify it by saying that housework/caring for their working spouse/etc “are like a full time job” and begin comparing their load with those of working wives/women, who have to do it all on their own and still manage to get it done. Don’t compare or assume that those working are lax in the homecare/spousecare department unless you want opinions to the contrary.

    It’s kinda akin to those who worked their way through college, and those who got to do it on Mom and Dad’s dime. Those with Mom and Dad’s financial support will always say that school was a full time priority for them, and that they couldn’t possibly have worked full time while attending….but people work full time while finishing full time school everyday, so it obviously can be done and be done well. Same goes for this topic.

    Buuuutt, it’s your blog, your post, and if you didn’t want object opinions on the matter I’m glad to back out of this discussion. I would just suggest wording your question (listed below for easy reference) differently on future blogs.

    “Question: Do you think these women are freeloaders or doing simply what works for them? What about the feminist movement? Have we taken a step back women women choosing ot stay at home sans children or any real responsibilities?

  • Ginger

    @ Brianna

    Ill come back and reply fully….but

    @ your #2 comment have you thought that perhaps you just dont have enough respect for their choices? That’s how it comes across in your response.

    #3-I disagree, I think you’re making it way more simplified that it is. There are some couples where this option truly works for them. The wife likes her free time and the husband likes his wife available to him. They like it so what’s not to respect?

    Some are able to do this and some find it challenging. I think you just dont respect the choice. Say it out loud instead of making this out to be a debate. You dont respect it and it’s clear.

    Truth be told I am just as driven as the next woman, but there are days when I dont mind sitting at home, writing this blog and attending to my home. Seriously. But it’s a choice you’d have to respect in order to understand.

    Just an observation.

  • Brianna

    Dear Meg/other readers…

    1) “please don’t judge us because you think you know what my husband or I really want in life — and that you think you know the best way for us to get it.”

    None of what I wrote was done with the intention to make anyone feel bad about themselves. This is a blog discussion where the author asked for opinions and ideas, not an online support group where all respondents must provide positive feedback on the subject. The topic on the table is SAHW, it’s whats up for discussion and debate. Debating involves various ideas and viewpoints that are GOING to clash, especially on a topic like this. In the pro-SAHW posts there is a lot of working-wife bashing. Am I taking offense to the insinuation that as a working wife, I DON’T have time to keep my house clean, my husband feeling loved, or that I can’t possibly be finding fulfillment from spending 50+ hours a week at work? No I am not, yet it is at the root of why I do not believe in the SAHW. If there is any judgment on this board it goes both ways.

    2) “One of the main reasons I stay home is so that I can support my husband in other ways.”

    Which other ways do you support him? Specifically, which ways are you able to support him as a SAHW that you weren’t able to do when working? I’ve yet to see a straightforward answer to this as most of the other respondents here cite things such as being able to do chores, being in a good mood from being home all day instead of stressed at the office (thus more able to spend ‘quality’ time with the working spouse),being able to provide more love/homecooked meals to their spouse etc. etc. These are all things that are GIVENS in terms of being an adult (chores always need to be done, food needs to be cooked or purchased) and being in an adult relationship.

    3) “I love that I have time for my husband NOW”

    If you being at home is what allows you to have time now for your hubby, but he is working, how does he have time for YOU? He is still working, thus his “free time” is not increased at all by you staying at home, if anything it might be reduced since he is carrying the full financial load. You may have more time for yourself and household chores (a full 40 hours minimum!) but your hubby is still gone 40+ hours a week. I don’t see how one spouse staying at home increases the time that both get to spend “together” by much more than a couple hours a week at best, if those hours that were previously used to do chores after work or on the weekends are now free. The working spouse will still come home from work during the week just as stressed, and may have work that feeds into the weekends just the same as they did before. Nothing has changed for THEM, so how does that equation equal more time together?

    Overall what it comes down to for me, is that being able to juggle work, or some other sort of part/full time commitment, hobbies, friends, and have a personal life is an art. You have to be able to multitask and prioritize without spreading yourself too thin. I realize some women may just not want to put forth the effort to juggle all of this, but it might also be that the inverse relationship is true: women who are able handle many things in their lives and enjoy challenges are those who chose to be working wives AND have fulfilling family/social lives as well, those who can’t handle it or believe they can’t become SAHWs? Just a thought..

  • http://www.allaboutappearances.info Meg

    Brianna,

    You make it sound like us SAHWs just decide one day we’re not going to work and tell our husbands that they have to support us. I can’t speak for everyone, but this wasn’t a decision I made alone. One of the main reasons I stay home is so that I can support my husband in other ways. He makes enough money for us to get by just fine, including putting money towards retirement, in part because we both live frugally. He’s also doing what he wants to do and he appreciates my support just as much as I appreciate his. This is the life that we both chose — not something that I forced on him or that he forced on me.

    Sure, more money would be nice, but it’s simply not worth it to us. There are many things that we value more than money. For example, I love that I have time for my husband NOW — not after he retires (and who knows when that will be since he loves working in his field). We don’t have to wait. We can enjoy each other’s company now, even if it isn’t all day everyday. And in the rest of the time, I find PLENTY of productive things to do for him, for us, and yes, for myself, too. Those aren’t things that I want to sacrifice right now just for some more money in the bank. I haven’t ruled out getting a regular job at some point if it’s right for us, but it’s not going to be just for the money unless we desperately need it. And I don’t need someone else to hand me a paycheck to know my self-worth.

    It is great that your in-laws got to live the life that they chose and that things worked out so well (a lot of people run themselves ragged waiting for golden years that never come). But as much as their lifestyle may appeal to you, we don’t want their life. It’s ok to want something different, but please don’t judge us because you think you know what my husband or I really want in life — and that you think you know the best way for us to get it.

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  • Brianna

    Ooops! Last part got cut off. Continuing on with you working so that you can both achieve your financial goals sooner, I have a great example of that: my in-laws.

    My father in law made a great amount of money as a small business owner, and he was more than able to support himself, my mother in law, AND their children (once they came along). My mother in law had no college education when they were first married, and could have EASILY chosen to stay at home and live off my father in laws earnings, however, she chose to work, got through school all the way to her masters, and in time earned MORE than her husband. They both worked until they were able to retire TOGETHER at a VERY young age and raise their family, much younger than they would have if they had just depended on his salary. It’s lovely to be able to stay at home, but wouldn’t it be great to be able to do that WITH your spouse in years’ time instead of by yourself now? I that is much more of a ‘status’ symbol than having one spouse stay at home, since both worked to be ‘stay-at-homes’ and are able to enjoy it together.

  • Brianna

    “Why is there a loss of partnership or equity of a woman stays at home? Why cant her value (what works for her) be what she does in the home to make her husband comfortable? If they can afford it why not? All why pursuing the things in life she really WANTS to? Explain that to me please….”

    Glad to Ginger! First off, “they” are not affording to stay home, the working spouse is ‘affording’ it, and the stay at home is reaping the benefits, that right there creates inequality. There have been countless studies which show that SAHW (and even SAHMs) are more likely to put up with infidelity and abuse of various types in their relationships because they feel dependent on their working husbands, this is not a new idea by any means. When you and your husband met, who was supporting you? Hopefully you were supporting yourself, and I’m sure your independence and drive were among the qualities that attracted him to you. Where does that go when you give it up and depend financially on him? Having your hubby shoulder the financial burden alone robs him of the chance to pursue what he ‘really wants to in life’, why should only the wife get this opportunity and not the husband? If your husband were to want a career change, would you be able to provide for him the way he is so generously doing for you?

    I speak from personal experience on this subject, as my husband made well enough to support both of us when we were first married. All of his co-workers’ wives did not work, and they could not understand why I did or why I was working on my masters to further my career. But when my husband decided he wanted to go back to school a few years later, I was able to provide that for him by stepping up and supporting both of us on MY salary now, which was a great feeling, especially after learning that many of his former co-workers felt stuck in their positions as the sole bread winners. Your board is all about frugality, if you two are lucky enough to be able to live off your husband’s salary, wouldn’t your salary (however small or large) be an AMAZING addition to your guys’ savings and help you to achieve your common financial goals that much sooner?

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  • Ginger

    Great points Tanya, I LOVE that, working is a luxury especially when childcare costs so much where you live.

  • http://www.awomansblog.com Tawnya

    Women are generally super-critical of our own sex. I think this is based in widespread insecurity and confidence in decisions and the desire to be seen as ‘right’.

    I’ve done/been it all, SAHM, WAHM, WOHM – and I can say they are all hard and each presents its own unique challenges. I’m a SAHM now and I can honestly say it’s purely economics, although I am getting used to it. It used to drive me nuts. Where I live, it would cost me nearly 3K a month to have someone watch my children. Maybe I could get a job that would cover those expenses, but I would be keeping much less than I would be spending on child care. Just can’t do it. For me, working is a luxury. When I was working? Staying home was.

    Oh well – the grass is always greener…

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  • http://www.girlsjustwannahavefunds.com Ginger

    Brianna,

    The point is that both couples can AFFORD to do it. Think about it, what is an occasional consulting job going to do for household income if she does it when she feels like she can? Bills still have to be paid with money that is expected to come in from the husband’s salary. If she doesnt take a job, the bills are still paid. In fact, it’s smart to take an occasional job here and there bc it will keep her resume fresh and updated.

    I have a friend who is a SAHW, is in film school, has two dogs a husband and a maid. She does not work, ever. She is a SAHW by any and all definitions regardless of whether or not she chooses to do anything with her degree. Why? Because her husband makes enough such that she does not have to work.

    I get that you are trying to define it based on the lack of “ambition” of the woman staying at home but I think the issue around status is denoted by the very ability of the husband to provide for both in that situation.

    Why is there a loss of partnership or equity of a woman stays at home? Why cant her value (what works for her) be what she does in the home to make her husband comfortable? If they can afford it why not? All why pursuing the things in life she really WANTS to? Explain that to me please….

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  • http://www.allaboutappearances.info Meg

    Brianna,

    Yes there is a difference, but they’re both SAHWs. The point is that most SAHWs probably aren’t staying home eating bon-bons all day. Do you know any that you know — for certain — are? And if you do, it’s likely because she’s depressed, not because she’s a SAHW (though even most depressed people I know are more productive).

    I don’t think that the husband making enough money is a *reason* to stay home and I doubt that many SAHWs would think of it that way. That’s like saying we bought our house instead of renting because we could afford to. We bought it because we wanted more space, to have a place to call our own, to put money towards building equity, etc. That we could afford to wasn’t the reason, it was what enabled us to make the choice.

    As far as equity… no, it wouldn’t be very equitable if a wife was just eating bon-bons all day. However, I’d hope that her husband would be supportive and try to figure out what’s wrong, and not just leave her if she is indeed going through depression or other problems. In the grand majority of cases, though, I bet that the wife is doing plenty of things to earn her keep. I can’t speak for everyone, but my husband has no complaints. He might support me financially, but I support him in many, many other ways. And if I could afford it, I’d love for him to stay home — especially since he’s really the domestic one and I could write a long honey-do list.

    Why are there more stay at home wives than husbands, though? Part of it is social, part financial (which is social at its roots, too, of course). Guys still tend to make more than women. My husband makes a good bit more than I ever dreamed of making in my original career path. Also, guys that stay home are — no matter how productive — viewed as not just bums, but as failures by society. I think society is a bit easier on women because there is a traditional expectation that women will stay home because they’re also expected to raise children soon after getting married. However, guys can make great stay-at-home husbands and dads. My dad was the stay-at-home parent while my mom worked. He was in early retirement for health issues, so it’s what worked for them.

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  • Brianna

    “Here in DC there are TONS of stay at home wives here with MAs, PHDs and JDs who simply choose not to pursue FT work but may take consulting gigs here and there because they want to and it keeps them active. I dont see any difference between the that and the woman who just stays at home eating bon bons all day.”

    To me there is are many HUGE difference between a woman who works part time or consults and a woman who sits at home eating bon bons all day, how can one even compare the two? One, although perhaps on a hiatus from full time work, is still working, one is not. I would be interested to know how many women have stay at home husbands for the mere reason that they make enough to support the two of them. What happens to the equity, the sense of partnership, if one is carried completely by the other? Although many posters here will say it would be fine with them, why is this situation mostly applied to women?

  • http://www.allaboutappearances.info Meg

    Well said, Ginger!

    And to Ash,

    The thing is that we make choices based on our circumstances! I could work outside of the home, but frankly, I don’t like my options and I’d prefer not to right now. You can have a chronic illness and choose to work outside the house even if it kills you.

    I do understand how for some people might see it as a status symbol — I don’t doubt that. However, I certainly don’t anymore than I see being DINKS or a SAHM as status symbols. There are just, to one degree or another, choices. It’s nice when one partner has the option of supporting the other financially, but it’s not like it takes a six-figure salary in most places — especially if you live very frugally. Granted, one might not always have the option, but most couples I think do if they’re willing to make enough sacrifices (as they often have to when one person is disabled or otherwise out of a job). And like any choice, each person has to figure out for themselves if it’s worth the sacrifice.

    I guess the big difference between people would be whether they see staying at home a sacrifice you make or a choice that is sacrificed for. I’ve felt a little of both. I made the choice to stay at home because the other options just didn’t seem worth it to us, but we’ve also made sacrifices so that we can live on one income (and at least it gives me plenty of material for FruWiki.com — shameless plug, I know, lol!).

    Anyhow, I didn’t sit around as a child dreaming of staying home supported by a husband, but all in all, this part of my life isn’t too bad.

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  • http://www.girlsjustwannahavefunds.com Ginger

    Ash,

    I diagree with that scenario.

    For example, I have not worked FT since 2005 but I have kept my resume fresh by taking on PT jobs here and there so that when I had to do my internship for grad school I would be qualified for certain positions. I have also taken on numerous volunteer positions over the last three years because I like being active in my community. Im able to do that bc my husband makes enough for me to pursue my interests and not HAVE TO work a FT job to make ends meet.

    There are couples not in the position to have one, NOT WORK so that they can go back to school. If my husband did not make enough money for me to return to school then it wouldnt be possible as it is my CHOICE to go back to school. If I choose not to work after I graduate the situation remains the same. I would be home until I decide to do something with my degree.

    I think the qualifier here is the CHOICE to stay at home and not seek FT work because the couple can afford to do so bc one person makes enough for both to live on. Not, whether or not the wife is actively pursuuing anything.

    Here in DC there are TONS of stay at home wives here with MAs, PHDs and JDs who simply choose not to pursue FT work but may take consulting gigs here and there because they want to and it keeps them active. I dont see any difference between the that and the woman who just stays at home eating bon bons all day.

    What it boils down to is that the woman is staying at home because she wants to and the husband makes enough so they can afford to do so.

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  • Ash

    Meg,

    The reason that I wouldn’t think of those looking for work, in school, or in between work as stay-at-home is because a)those are examples of circumstance, not choice and b)they imply that the person is not aiming to stay at home. In the original post, the question is of a SAHW as a status symbol, not a result of uncontrollable circumstance (job loss, career change, etc). The use of a SAHW as an item of status operates under the following scenario: couple #1 husband makes enough to support both spouses, so the wife stays at home. Couple #2 husband does not, so wife must work. So there’s where the status comes into play, with the SAHW an indication of wealth. The assumption the other way around is that the non SAHW must work because her husband cannot support both of them. The prejudice goes both ways, and I’ve felt it many times. I’m sure you’re not the type to think that, but we’re speaking in general terms.

    For example, I had a good friend who was recently out of work for almost a year, didn’t think of her as SAHW because she was actively looking for work the entire time, she didn’t want to stay at home. Fortunately she could pass on the lower-level jobs that kept coming her way and hold out for one benefiting her career path because her husband made enough to support them for the time being. I also have a different friend who’s husband makes a decent but not remarkable amount of money, yet because he makes juuuuust enough to support them both she chooses not to work. So I consider her a SAHW because its her choice. She has no desire for school, pro bono work, anything, she just wants to be at home. To her, a ‘working’ wife is an indication of a husband with a low salary, which I find amusing because I make about as much as her husband does, but that’s a different story.

    It is a personal choice though, and I’m sorry you get those reactions from people. You are giving up a lot by not pursuing your career and letting your husbands take priority.

  • http://www.allaboutappearances.info Meg

    Ash,

    There seems to be a lot of people here saying things like, “Well, I didn’t mean people ____”. End that with “looking for work”, “disabled”, “volunteering”, “who work from home”, etc., but the fact is that stay-at-home-wives are a diverse group of women. How fair is it for people to talk about stay-at-home-wives as being lazy leeches, but then exclude any examples to the contrary with that sentiment that somehow they don’t count simply because they don’t support that stereotype?! Especially since many people I’ve met offline have assumed that as a stay-at-home-wife that I’m just some lazy but “lucky” (to use their word) gal who gets to sit around and do nothing all day!

    As for my degree, when I originally started thinking about college and a career I planned to move and also travel as part of my career, but — looooooooooong story short — I married a guy who doesn’t want to move and who couldn’t very well follow me around the globe. At this stage, he’s pretty well locked into a job here and to pull him away from it so he can follow me would make absolutely no financial sense in our case.

    Some women might think that’s horrible, but I don’t. I love my husband and it’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make. And yeah, ok, I really don’t mind our situation now — even if it’s not what I planned. I like that I can be flexible and make my own hours, even if I don’t get a regular paycheck. If I can find some from-home work that pays well and gives me the flexibility I want, great! If not, that’s fine, too! If we did need to move for his job, I’m glad that I could do it without having to quit a job here. And, I love it when I can help him out with things whether it’s with his work or doing stuff at home or making a few extra bucks on the side.

    Fortunately, my husband really does appreciate my sacrifices. He’s not some sort of anti-feminist, old-fashioned guy who thinks women should spend their days cooking and cleaning (unless they want to, he’d probably add). If he was, I’d be in deep trouble because my domestic skills are rather pitiful, especially compared to his. Truth is, he’s a great guy and he’d support me no matter what I did, but he’s really happy about the choices that I’ve made because he wants to be able to spend time with me — time that I’m happy to be able to give him.

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  • Ash

    I don’t think this discussion was meant to lump those that are looking for work, working from home, or in between jobs/in school into the ‘stay-at-home-wife’ group. I wouldn’t think anyone in the above categories qualifies as a ‘stay-at-home’ because they’re actively pursuing something. The question of this as a status symbol would more likely refer to those who choose to stay at home and do nothing because the other spouse can support the both of them.

    That being said, it does seem that those who get degrees which they can not find work using or choose to live in areas that offer no career opportunities are effectively counting on being supported. It reminds me of a teenager who can choose to work or not work during summer break…how did you plan to support yourself pre-husband when you were working on these degrees/in these fields that didn’t pay a living wage? Not judging, just curious..

  • http://www.allaboutappearances.info Meg

    Good point, JustEloped! You reminded me of one of the main reasons that my husband and I decided that I should be a SAHW. We are far from old-fashioned and anti-feminist, but we are very practical.

    The job market where I live is awful because it’s flooded with college students and recent grads, but there’s not a lot of big companies here. I have a lot of friends that are trying to find a job — skilled, hardworking friends, I might add. There’s hardly anything local available for me with my training (though I have a college degree) unless I wanted to start around minimum wage and work my way up (if I’m that lucky) over what would probably be a long time. The last time I tried that, I spent almost as much money in gas and work expenses as I made. Frankly, that’s not worth it to me or my husband. And no, we’re not interested in moving. We love it here, the cost of living is low, our family and friends are here, my husband’s job is here, etc. (not to mention that we couldn’t sell our house in the near future for anywhere near enough).

    I haven’t given up finding a job that makes a good salary, though. I’m still working on my skills and getting experience working on various projects (again, some of which I hope will make a lot more money one day). But, in the eyes of many, I’m probably just a “spoiled”, “lazy” stay-at-home wife with a few hobbies. But hey, think of it this way, the fewer people working paying jobs, the more jobs there are out there for those who really need them.

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  • http://lilmsindependent.blogspot.com/ JustEloped

    Well, I’d love to have a job. But I just moved to a new area where there are no jobs, we only have (and can only afford) one car, there’s no public transportation, and my husband’s hours are erratic. Ergo, I am a stay at home wife for the time being. Which is fine by both of us. There was a time when he was a stay at home husband and I supported him, so I figure now we’re even.

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  • http://www.foreverloyal.wordpress.com foreverloyal

    Good post Eliza.

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  • http://www.fruwiki.com Meg

    @Megan re: “…but beyond that I don’t see how anyone can sustain a sense of self-worth staying at home just for the heck of it”

    Not everyone bases their self worth on a job they get paid for. There are a lot of productive things that one can do at/from home. Plus, many “stay at home” wives spend a good deal of time outside the house. Sure, there probably are people that sit around watching t.v. all day every day, but I doubt that’s the norm.

    Sure, it’d be nice if everyone could make money doing what they love, but I have more than a few friends making less than $20k a year in jobs they absolutely hate. Fortunately, they don’t base their self worth on their salary on what their coworkers think. I’m sure they’d love to be able to stay home and pursue other interests. One would be a great writer if she had the time. And several would likely volunteer their time. One wants to help battered women, but doesn’t have the time. Another wants to help people who fall through the cracks of the medical system.

    As for me, I’d probably be stuck in a low-paying job that I’d hate if it weren’t for my supportive husband. As is, I am working for a startup and other projects of mine which aren’t bringing in anything more than shoe money at the moment. If I weren’t involved in those projects, I’d be spending more time gardening, writing, and perhaps learning and then making some crafts. I also enjoy helping my husband out with his projects and — while I’m not Martha Stewart by any means — I do enjoy managing the household.

    And by the way, I think the same goes for men. I’d love for my husband to stay at home and help around the house! So, I’m not really surprised that my husband likes that I’m a SAHW.

  • Belle

    \\”I also know families where both parents work, but the wife makes just enough money to cover her children’s daycare costs, and enough money to buy herself and each of the kids a couple of smoothies a week.

    She’s actually spending more money to work than she makes when you factor in work clothes and supplies, gas for the commute, car payments for a car that’s big enough to get all the kids and supplies to daycare”\\

    This type of thinking is what bothers me, and I believe is part of the reason feminism gets brought into the debate. This argument only holds if the woman makes a small salary; why assume that the woman is making so little that her salary would “barely cover” costs, but that the husband’s salary must be a) more than the wife’s and b) enough to support the whole family? I too work in a field where many people spend fortunes on transport, professional clothing & dry cleaning, expensive lunches. There’s a solution that’s much less rash than simply quitting – you take your own lunch, take public transport/carpool/telecommute when you can, you buy clothes that work for the office and the weekend, and don’t buy dry clean only items if you can help it. The “oh it costs so much to work, might as well quit” seems like no more than an easy excuse out.

  • Megan

    \\”I also know families where both parents work, but the wife makes just enough money to cover her children’s daycare costs, and enough money to buy herself and each of the kids a couple of smoothies a week.

    She’s actually spending more money to work than she makes when you factor in work clothes and supplies, gas for the commute, car payments for a car that’s big enough to get all the kids and supplies to daycare”\\

    This type of thinking really does bother me though, and I believe is part of the reason feminism gets brought into the debate. This argument only holds if the woman makes a small salary; why assume that the woman is making so little that her salary would “barely cover” costs, but that the husband’s salary must be a) more than the wife’s and b) enough to support the whole family? I too work in a field where many people spend fortunes on transport, professional clothing & dry cleaning, expensive lunches. There’s a solution that’s much less rash than simply quitting – you take your own lunch, take public transport/carpool/telecommute when you can, you buy clothes that work for the office and the weekend, and don’t buy dry clean only items if you can help it. The “oh it costs so much to work, might as well quit” seems like no more than an easy excuse out.

  • Megan

    I’m also a bit confused on why an opinion is automatically labeled a “judgment”? We all have different opinions, because we’re all doing different things. Obviously some are not going to agree with others’ choices, there’s no getting around that. We’re not talking going up to complete strangers and questioning their life choices, this is a discussion forum, varying opinions are going to fly. I’m not judging the stay-at-home-wife, but I also do not see how she can take any fulfillment from her lifestyle, which explains why I am a working wife. She in turn cannot see how I take fulfillment from my hectic workweeks. Its all the same, if its “judgment” on one side its also judgment on the other.

    For example, I have a “friend” who recently quit working to be a stay-at-home-mom. She had always prided herself on her work ethic, but wasn’t getting terribly far in terms of a career. Then she meets and marries a man who has terribly outdated Shovenistic beliefs; i.e. he refuses to work along side ANY woman, told me once to my face that I would never make any money (we’re in the same field), etc. etc., that type. Suddenly she’s a SAHM (her ex has the kids half the time, what’s the need?) and is looking down her nose at anyone who “has” to work. Point is, this so-called judgment often comes from both sides, which is why both “sides” have their reasons/opinions for not agreeing with the other.

  • Megan

    Personally I would probably LOVE staying at home for the first few days, but beyond that I don’t see how anyone can sustain a sense of self-worth staying at home just for the heck of it. Those of us with career positions AND 9 to 5 jobs all find a way to cook and get household stuff done because we HAVE to; I don’t think that’s an excuse to stay home and I certainly don’t buy that it takes and extra 40 hours minimum to do the things that everyone else has to do on top of their job. Even if/when my husband or I make enough where we could live comfortably off one salary and one could stay home it wouldn’t make sense, because if you can live off of one’s salary then that means you could be SAVING all of the others salary!! Isn’t this page about saving and frugality? What better/quicker way to save than to live off spouse #1′s $150K income while saving spouse #2′s $50 or up income?? You’re essentially “paying” for one person to stay home in opportunity cost, which is fine if that’s your thing but if money is ever tight in the future or something unexpected happens you’d have to live with knowing that you could have had X more to fall back on if the stay-at-home-spouse had worked or worked part time. All those hours on the couch don’t seem so important when you think about it like that.

    Also, the idea of keeping up education/skill sets in your field in case you ever do have to go back to work is great in theory, but how practical is it? Even in steady fields, it can be EXTREMELY difficult to re-enter the workforce after a few months, let alone a few years. And with today’s job market who can risk that? I would much rather work hard earlier on and be able to retire early with my spouse so we could BOTH be at home and enjoy it together.

  • Beth

    You said:

    //My husband and I live on one income which makes our financial situation more secure than a two income household where if one person loses a job, the other must shoulder the burden until the other spouse obtains new employment.//

    Perhaps I’m not quite following you, but in a two-income household, if one person loses a job, they still have half their usual income. In your situation, if your husband loses his job, your household has no income at all.

    Why do you consider this a more secure situation?

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  • Sarah

    I am currently what most people think of as a stay at home wife – but I do telecommute, and I make more money staying home than I could working outside of the home in the area where I live now.

    Just because people look and “see” a stay at home wife doesn’t mean that she isn’t making money, or contributing to the family.

    I know that a lot of times when I say I telecommute people ask me if I really have a job, or if I just stay at home watching tv all day – and I’m sure that there are just as many people who don’t ask, and assume that I stay at home and watch tv all day.

    I’m also a private person, and I don’t think that I should have to explain to you how much money I make, or how I make it so that you won’t think I’m some kind of parasite living off of my husband.

    I think that most people do what’s right for them as a couple, and I do think that families with a stay at home spouse have more time together to get to know each other and reconnect, and become a better couple, or a better family.

    I also know families where both parents work, but the wife makes just enough money to cover her children’s daycare costs, and enough money to buy herself and each of the kids a couple of smoothies a week.

    She’s actually spending more money to work than she makes when you factor in work clothes and supplies, gas for the commute, car payments for a car that’s big enough to get all the kids and supplies to daycare – but it works for her.

    I on the other hand, would rather take care of my kids myself than take a job that only covered a little bit more than the costs of daycare.

    It comes down to a personal decision most of the time – there are instances where illness is involved, or people are unhireable.

    I really don’t think that it’s anyones business whether I stay at home, or work, or not, and I think most people would be a lot happier if they quit worrying about what everyone else was doing and gave more thought to their own situation.

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  • http://www.guinness416.com guinness416

    I was one of those who would have been scathing about these women a short while ago (although in my defense, I probably would have been silently scathing!). Then my better half was laid off and was essentially a house-husband for six months. And it was wonderful.

    He took care of the chores during the day so our evenings and weekends were free to spend time with friends and each other having fun, supervized some construction work at home we’d been putting off due to not having the time, bonded with some neighbours in ways that will pay off down the line, and took care of items which had been on our goals list for ages – ranging from starting a vegetable garden, switching primary banks, hosting family, getting his car tuned up and so on. (And in fairness he also worked 10-20 hours per week, albeit for less than he’s used to making; echoing some of your commenters he would have gone nuts if he had NO work to do).

    Now he’s back at work and we’re back to our work-long-hours, scramble to put dinner together every night, spend half the weekend doing chores, struggle to get home for contractors/deliveries/etc lifestyles. I know some people work a strict 9 to 5 and think this sounds mad, but when you both have an onerous professional schedule this setup can be a real stress-reliever. Your comments about wills, pre-nups, joint accounts, etc are well take though and I agree must be set in stone.

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  • Eliza

    I grew up with a ‘supermum’ of the late 1980′s – an accountant heading her own firm, who was on at least 8 charity boards, managed to run a couple of subsiduary/partnership businesses, chair and run an arts festival every year as well as take care of 3 kids. my dad’s a lawyer so he helped out when he could.

    all i can really remember is that it was crazy – everything was always rushed and dynamic and immediate – which was also part of mum’s personality.

    looking back now i find it kind of annoying – meals were always thrown together, washing was always hastily and fairly carelessly done, and the house was always kind of clean – or the bits that people could see.

    on the other hand……

    my boyfriend’s mum stayed home. she sacrificed her career in admin, and stayed home to spend every moment with her two kids. she cleaned, she cooked and everything was pretty all the time, and they certainly loved the attention and had very happy memories.

    20 odd years down the track……..

    his parents lost everything they had when his dad’s business lost it’s main supplier. my parents are well, more than wealthy (i hate saying that but it’s true). i have a great deal of respect for my mother’s business opinion, but with each year grow further away from her coldness and distance. his mother is constantly concerned over the slightest cough to the point where its highly irritating, and my boyfriend certainly doesn’t ask her advice on monetary matters or his career moves.

    20 years on my mother has so many interests it’s hard to keep up and we have no idea whether they’ve jetted off interstate for the weekend or not. bf’s mum is still holding the apron strings as tight as she can, and makes it very clear how much she wants (read: needs) us to go and see her often, as well as how much she wants grandchildren, and that she has replaced her children when they moved out of home with her dogs.

    Now, obviously i’ve managed to get two of the farthest extremes here. So what do i do?

    Well, at the moment I suppose i’m a SAHGF. My bf works while I expand my publishing business. I get asked and bagged all the time about mucking around at home and ‘getting a proper job’ – particularly from my mum. I’m also on a couple of boards and committees.

    Every day our house is spotless, and it really does look beautiful. Every day I make the most beautiful meals because its wonderful for him to come home from his (excuse the cliche) high pressured corporate job to a house where it is lovely looking, clean and tranquil. And I manage to work a good 8 hour day to boot, because we will never have a house if i don’t sort this business out.

    (Coming to the point at long last….)

    WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU WANT IN LIFE?

    What i’ve come to realise through all this is it’s YOUR life. You have to get up everyday and do what you’ve chosen to do. No-one else has to.

    Figure out what type of life you want and go and make it happen – because hell, why not? It’s not supposed to be a tragic, scratching and scraping mess – where ‘oh well, s**t happens – life’s s**t you get over it’ as my sister in law is so fond of saying.

    Life should never, ever be like that. Everything is a choice – so choose what is going to make you happy. Everyone is so inundated with responsibility and obligations they don’t realise they actually have a choice.

    Now, I personally want to have a gorgeous white country house, and a beach house. I want my bf to have a benz before he’s 30. I want my kids to experience as much as they want – sport, drama, music etc. I want my house to run beautifully and tranquilly, and be able to cook and entertain regularly. I want to stay home with my kids at least 2 days per working week, but i also want my publishing company to be a national force to be reckoned with. I want to have an actual relationship with my bf when we have kids – not the barely speaking thing many people i know have.

    I’ll do it to, but unlike our respective mothers, i’ll do it with balance, and i’ll make sure that i’m happy in the process.

    I won’t martyr myself as they did, but i will make it genuinely beautiful because I want to look back at a beautiful life lived with grace.

    It’s really quite simple – whether you’re a SAHM, a SAHW, a working mum, a working partner or just a girlfriend – if you’re happy, nine times out of 10 your partner and kids will be too.

    And really, at the end of it all, you have no one else to answer to except yourself. And i’m sure as hell never going to look back at something and regret my choices ever again.

  • http://www.foreverloyal.wordpress.com foreverloyal

    You can find plenty to do, kids or no kids.

    Boring people are bored easily.

    I’d write more but the baby just woke up fussin.

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  • http://www.cyllya.com Cyllya

    I’m a woman, and if I were going to work 40 hours a week, I’d love a stay-at-home husband. (I do currently work 40 hours a week but don’t want to, as I am aiming to have my own business. I’d rather he be the wage slave if either of us have to be. But either way I’d rather it just be one of us.)

    Technically, I have enough time to do all the really necessary house work. But after 40 hours of work, 56 hours of sleep, and about 10 hours of unpaid time I spend on my job (comute, getting ready for work), that’s only 62 hours of fragmented time a week to actually live. And I’m supposed to spend it on washing dishes, cooking, packing a lunch, doing laundry, folding laundry, scrubbing floors, and grocery shopping?! And I’m supposed to LIKE that?! Of course I don’t. I hate having to squeeze my life into the little cracks between all the maintenance work.

    Having one spouse (preferably the one good at the housework, or at least the cooking) stay at home can improve the lives of both. Since one doesn’t have to go to a job and one doesn’t have to do any housework, they both have a lot more free time! If you are the one to work full-time, imagine waking up to a cheap healthy yummy homemade breakfast every morning, having a cheap healthy yummy homemade lunch packed and ready to take to work, and having a cheap healthy yummy homemade dinner waiting for you at dinner time. No more daily expensive takeout or microwave meal from that one task alone. Ahh… such a beautiful daydream.

    The person who can’t stay home for two days without being incredibly bored… Oh my gosh, get a life! Get a hobby! Start a home business! Volunteer! Do something with the dog that he’d actually appreciate!

    My boyfriend lost his job a bit ago and has had enough trouble finding a new one that he’s thinking of moving in with me. I offered him free rent in exchange for doing the housework, but he doesn’t want to be a “freeloading boyfriend.” :( Well, I suppose I can use the money he pays me for rent to hire someone…

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  • Bill in NC

    Mom was a stay at home parent, but just a few years after the divorce she became seriously ill.

    Living on alimony she did not have enough work credits to be eligible for SS disability (she did not live long enough to collect SS retirement based on her ex-husband’s earnings)

    SS disability qualifies you for Medicare within 24 months (less time for certain nasty diseases)

    Generally, to remain eligible for SS disability you need 20 credits (out of a possible 40) over the prior 10 years.

    One credit is earned in 2008 for each $1,050 in earned income.

    Surely even the busiest SAHP can earn 2 credits over the course of a year and thus keep some minimum disability insurance?

  • Andrew

    Let me offer my perspective as the husband of a SAHW. I get a tremendous amount of fulfillment in being able to provide a life for my wife where she doesn’t have to work. I believe that she appreciates the freedom that she has and is truly able to enjoy her life more without having to worry about the stresses of a job.

    She finds plenty of things to do to productively occupy her time, such as training dressage show horses for competition and teaching children how to ride horses.

    The benefits to me include that she has plenty of time to take care of nearly all household duties while I’m working, leaving us more free time to spend together. And due to this arrangement she is able to pay more attention to me and is probably more pleasant to be around than she would be if she was stressing out about work stuff.

    I’m 25, she’s 22. My mom has never worked so this arrangement seems very natural to me. Her mom was a single mother who worked all the time, so it’s taken some time for her to be comfortable with her self-worth not being defined by having a successful job. We are also blessed to be in a position where financial stress is not an issue – that would probably make the SAHW arrangement slightly less ideal.

  • Tina

    I agree, I think the judgment of another woman’s choice is really what leaves me wondering why so many women actually CARE?

  • http://sensetosave.com Kacie

    I’m a SAHW and soon to be SAHM. I do some freelance work from home that brings in a decent income, but for the most part, I consider myself to be a homemaker.

    I’m able to do things during the day so that my evenings and weekends are totally free. My husband and I can just relax and enjoy each other’s company and he doesn’t have to worry about a thing. No errands to run, no chores to do.

    When I was working outside the home, both of us were exhausted, and we hated having to do all the housework after a long day of work.

    Our arrangement works well for our family, and it makes me mad when people make nasty comments. I don’t tell others how to live, so why should I be judged?

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  • SD

    Why is everyone so down on wives who don’t work? It sounds like jealousy to me, most women can’t afford to stay home these days. I wish I could. I’d love to have time to read, play with my kids, garden, visit with family and not have to deal with the stress of working full time and plus everything else. I doubt I’d be bored, there is so much to do. Unless you have no life outside of your job.

  • http://www.allaboutappearances.info Meg

    @LivingAlmostLarge,
    But would you stay at home before having kids — or if you didn’t even plan to have kids? That seems to be the issue for some people.

    Personally, I don’t see anything wrong with it per se. Whatever works! And I’d love for my husband to one day be a stay at home spouse, lol. But of course, any spouse who stays at home needs to be prepared financially in case something happens to the other spouse.

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  • http://www.livingalmostlarge.com LivingAlmostLarge

    What’s the big deal? I probably will have multiple graduate degrees and stay at home with our children. And we can afford to.

    Now it depends on the couple. My brother has a SAHM and he works outrageous hours. There is no way she can work when he works so many shifts. Same with my cousin in the military.

    There are reasons behind everything.

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  • Angie

    It always interests me when I read posts about the debate between staying at home and working. I went to a 4 year college and got a degree (and a husband). When we first married, I both wanted and needed to work. 5 years later when our son was born, I was in a position to stay at home because I felt that would be best while we had babies. Now that the kids are in school, I tried going back to work but things at home suffered. I love working, but my kids were getting stressed when I rushed them out the door so that I could get to work on time. I was getting stressed because I’m a type-A personality who wants to do everything perfectly, and my poor husband was stuck in the middle. He wanted to support me working because it’s what I wanted to do, but he was shouldering a lot of extra work at home because I would work all day and then have evening staff meetings, PTA meetings, etc. etc. We found that in order for our family to function, it works best when I’m at home. Even though we both grew up with working moms, we’ve found that the more relaxed pace of having a home-made dinner on the table at the same time every night and a de-cluttered house is worth the financial sacrifices we are making.

    Now, while my kids are gone, I find that cleaning the house isn’t as much drudgery as it was before I fully realized my options. I can sit down at the computer and research ways to help our finances. I can take care of my family (including parents and grandparents) when I’m needed. I can volunteer at the school or our church. And when I’m more relaxed, our whole family benefits.

    For our family, this works – not because I’m lazy or unwilling to work and make sacrifices for the family, but because I’m finally open to the idea that NOT working is the better sacrifice for all of us.

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  • http://www.allaboutappearances.info Meg

    @Laura and CLA,

    Just FYI, the current issue (as I understand it) isn’t so much about stay at home *moms* as it is about stay at home wives without kids. Granted, people are still arguing over the SAHM vs. working mom choice. However, people I know or know of who are perfectly fine with SAHMs (and even prefer that to working moms) have no tolerance for stay at home wives and consider us all lazy, freeloaders.

    Then factor in that many who are old-fashioned enough to want women to stay home would probably rather us get pregnant than get a job and aren’t fans of being intentionally childfree (no offense to you or any other people with children — we’re just not ready or interested presently).

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  • cla

    Wow, I am amazed at the emotional stres people get inot over someone else’s life choices!

    I’m a stay at home mom – ducking from the rotten tomatoes

    I have several degrees – I practiced tax law at a big city law firm – I LOATHED it – I didn’t pay for my original law degree as I had a full academic scholarship but I did pay, in part, for a graduate tax law degree [financed in part by my law firm while I was there - I paid for the remainder myself when I left - but it was just 1 semester's worth]

    I tried some other jobs that made use of my education that were less painful but still completely unsatisfying and ‘jobs’ rather than careers [despite their being careers for others]

    After we had children I stayed put – we make about the same as we did when we both worked only now – for much of the time we made far less and I can tell you what I learned during that time:

    1. I can live the same life on much less money when I’m not paying for commuting, workclohtes, dry cleaning, lunches, convenience items etc – not judging but it makes my CHOICE easier
    2. My husband likes me being at home with the kids – we’d talked about it before we married AND before we had kids so there has been no betrayal of expectations -I read more than one comment of late about how it’s not enough to take care of your kids full time – is is not a job to take care of other people’s kids full time? I’m the ultimate do it yourselfer
    3. Do I have time on my hands sometimes? Sure i do – I did when I worked too – there were lumches and phone calls – does no working woman ever kill time online? they must or there wouldn’t be so much vituperative commentary in cyberspace about stay at home wives!
    4. But my time [and education] can be well used at home: I have been on charity boards, run the PTA, supported political candidates and helped my community in many ways since I’ve been home – now that my youngest is going to kindergarten I anticipate doing even more of that ‘work.’

    So that’s my two cents – I don’t really think much about what other folks might think, but I thought I’d share how OUR choices have gone just to respond to some of what I read

  • http://www.allaboutappearances.info Meg

    P.S. Another good reason not to judge others is that many people suffer from chronic illnesses and that may greatly influence whether someone decides to stay home or work outside the home. You really never know, either, unless that person wants you to know about their illness (which is not always the case for many reasons). Many illnesses are completely invisible and some people are great at faking being ‘normal’ — especially as some illnesses vary in intensity from day to day and even moment to moment.

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  • http://www.allaboutappearances.info Meg

    I’ve been a stay at home wife of sorts since moving in with my husband. It started because I was going to college After graduation, I decided to take some time to develop some additional skills and see what I wanted to do for a career. While I didn’t consider it as a job option, I ended up blogging first for myself and then for a startup — which has now turned into more than blogging. Nowadays, I “work” but it’s a startup and I don’t have a real income at this point and it’s a work at home situation.

    Some people might see that as different, i.e. stay-at-home versus work-at-home. However, until I have a living income coming in, it’s easy to see what I do as a hobby — not that I don’t take it seriously, but I’ve had others dismiss it as ‘not a real job’.

    I think it’s important to mention, though, because I don’t think being a stay-at-home wife means just cooking and cleaning all day. Different people have different hobbies to keep them busy, and many can be very productive. I don’t do much in the way of cooking or cleaning, honestly, but I don’t just watch t.v. all day (not without a computer in front of me at least). I work for the startup, I garden, I care for our chickens, I look into ways for us to save money, live greener, simplify our lives, etc. And that’s not to mention things that I do specifically for my husband ; )

    As for my husband, he loves the arrangement. We both hope that I can eventually bring in a decent income and pad my resume in case I need it, but he really appreciates my skills and advice among other things.

    Plus, it’s nice that we don’t have to pay for another vehicle and gas and all the other things that come along with working outside the house.

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  • http://anitrasplace.net mikki AKA AnitraClark

    I aspire to be a stay at home mom. It the most unselfish thing you can do for your children. I mean I was raised by a single mother lucky to see her at all, thankfully I turned out fine, but sometimes you miss out on being with your kids seeing them grow because you have to work so much.

    I will support it like I support eating chocolate when my menstrual comes!!

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  • Morgan

    The bottom line remains: how does one person’s life choices affect another’s when one is not directly involved? The point should be focused on applauding the fact that we, as women, have the ability to choose our lifestyle, not hyper-judgmental bigotry. If it works for the individuals, the couple and/or the family, more power to them. It doesn’t affect the way I choose to live my life either way.

  • http://wealthisgood.blogspot.com Meg

    I think it’s important to look at things from the husband’s perspective as well. Don’t you think he’d love to have the option of not working? If you are raising kids it’s one thing; in that case I totally support the idea of having one spouse (either one) not working. But if a wife is simply choosing not to work while her husband works full time, that isn’t fair – and it may very well be classified as “laziness,” “mooching” or “golddigging” in certain circumstances.

    Both partners should pull their fair share of the weight in the marriage – whether that means earning income, managing a household, raising kids, managing investments, or what have you.

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    • Jasmin

      And that effects you…….how, exactly? You’ll get no brownie points from me for your Puritan work ethic. Are you a husband, Meg? I think you are a woman transferring your disdain for SAHW onto some theoretical “husband.”

      If all of these working women’s paychecks are making their husbands so happy, why is the divorce rate among two earner households so high? Why do statistics show that thw women in these two earner households are increasingly unhappy?

      It is a wonderful thing when a man can afford for his wife not to work if she wishes. Few SAHW without children lead vapid, empty lives. We actively volunteer, we can work from home if we choose to, and we are able to create beautiful, calm environments that men rarely want to leave. I run part of our investment portfolio, and I’ve made a considerable amount of money for us doing so. I also came into the marriage with my own money.

      More often than not , we are also well provided for in case of death or divorce.

      My question is why so many working woman posting here are so hostile towards the lifestyle choices of people who have no affect on you? In doing this you reveal more about yourself.

      There are intangible assets that people bring to marriage. Sadly, many women today value themselves only in terms of their ability to earn and to breed.

  • http://www.wideopenwallet.com Ashley @ Wide Open Wallet

    My old boss had a stay at home wife. I never thought twice about it. He was the owner of the company and made excellent money. I don’t know what she did all day but they certainly didn’t need her income. If she doesn’t want to work why should she?

    On the other hand, I would be bored as toast if I was home all day with no kids. If I were in her situation I would have been involved with the company.

  • Rory

    I agree with you Ginger, I am totally OK with the idea of SAHWs and SAHMs if that’s what works best for a couple, provided that the woman makes sure she has a back-up plan in case circumstances were to change. It is about having the choice to do whatever makes you happy. If two people are happy with their work arrangements, why should so many other people be judgemental? Who WOULDN’T want to have free time to persue their interests, hobbies, charity work, or whatever their heart desires? I wonder if all the trash talking is really a case of jealousy?

  • Rita

    Here’s an interesting spin… I have a stay-at-home HUSBAND, and I love it! We’re in our 40s and our only child is grown and on her own. A year ago I landed a job in which I earn more than both my husband and I did together previously. After slagging away in a job he hated for 17 years to make a living, my musician husband now has the ability to stay at home and write and record music. He is very happy to finally be able to tap into his creativity. Plus, when he has writer’s block, he cleans the house, does the laundry, buys groceries, etc. It’s a wonderful arrangement for both of us. And I feel somewhat fulfilled that I am able to provide a comfortable living for both of us. But no one around us seems to understand. I am repeatedly faced with sneering questions: “Does he have a job yet? Well, is he even LOOKING???” I get the distinct impression that people think I’m married to a lazy louse. But it sure is nice to come home to a hot meal and a clean house at the end of the day. I just wish we would have been able to do this when our daughter was young.

  • Rita

    Here’s an interesting spin… I have a stay-at-home HUSBAND, and I love it! We’re in our 40s and our only child is grown and on her own. A year ago I landed a job in which I earn more than both my husband and I did together previously. After slagging away in a job he hated for 17 years to make a living, my musician husband now has the ability to stay at home and write and record music. He is very happy to finally be able to tap into his creativity. Plus, when he has writer’s block, he cleans the house, does the laundry, buys groceries, etc. It’s a wonderful arrangment for both of us. And I feel somewhat fulfilled that I am able to provide a comfortable living for both of us. But no one around us seems to understand. I am repeatedly faced with sneering questions: “Does he have a job yet? Well, is he even LOOKING???” I get the distinct impression that people think I’m married to a lazy louse. But it sure is nice to come home to a hot meal and a clean house at the end of the day. I just wish we would have been able to do this when our daughter was young.

  • http://girlyhomewebzine.com ~Y

    I'm amazed at the people who don't think being at home is a full-time job in and of itself, with or without kids.

    At the end of the day, I say it's up to the couple to decide what's best for them. It's always been my dream to be at home after my babies come, and I'm glad to know that this is a viable option for me.

  • MC

    I’m with Laura in that I can’t help comparing a hypothetical situation to my own. I run the house like a fairly well-oiled machine, and I work-full time, am a full-time grad student, and have 2 teenage kids. I think I’d enjoy being a stay at home wife for about 3 months or so, but then I would get bored and would venture out to something more engaging that paying bills, cleaning toilets, blogging, or decorating. I’ve been a stay at home mom on/off before, and my optimum choice for work has been part-time work, full-time mom. If a woman wants to go to school for years and not use her education in the end, so be it though. It’s a great back up plan, and we all need one of those.

    But admittedly I wonder, as your coworker did, why go to the trouble and expense of the education if one isn’t going to put it to use, especially if it’s in something one doesn’t feel passionate about? And if one feels passionate about it, wouldn’t they use the degree they’ve worked so hard to get? If I’m independently wealthy and have the time, sure, why not learn about all the subjects I’ve always wanted to know about. But then again, I can probably do that without being the degree warpath. I can’t get a woman for wanting to learn, and if she wants to stay at home as a wife, that’s OK too. Feminism is about choices, and women should have the same choices men do. I don’t have to understand them, they just need to be there.

  • http://www.getrichordietrying.us JB

    I don’t really think these women are freeloaders. I think they are doing what works for them as a couple. As a husband, I wish my wife could stay at home and do whatever she wanted (especially while she’s pregnant), but we’re not quite there yet – and it makes me a feel a little inadequate since she still has to work.

    JB’s last blog post..Dave Ramsey’s Extended Baby Steps

  • http://absolutlyfit.blogspot.com Laura

    I can’t say that SAHMs don’t do anything, and I certainly think it’s great to be able to take care of your children full-time, but I have to say… I genuinely don’t understand how it can take so long to clean the house, cook meals, etc. I do all that WHILE working, so to me, the extra time would just mean time to read, go online, work out – things I enjoy, but that aren’t really a job.

    Laura’s last blog post..Surviving the sucky middle miles

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