Relocating And It Feels So Good!

That’s right! Operation move back to NOVA is in full effect! Yesterday day the man and I decided that it would be best if we moved back to Northern VA. I miss it terribly and so now starts the process of getting our home rent ready by June.
You may be asking why are we moving so soon after buying our first home back in 2007. No, we aren’t walking away from our mortgage and we aren’t moving to find cheaper housing, though it would be nice. We are just truly over the way that our current county government runs right now. Truly. As young homeowners looking to buy a home 2-3 years ago we were mainly concerned with the neighborhood and finding a suitable home for our needs but less concerned about the county government and school system.
Well, as we near the point where we’re starting to plan a family within the next year or so these things start to matter more. Especially the abysmal state of the school system and planned increase of property taxes when there will be a decrease in county services as proposed by our county executive who has gone to court to push it through. According to our money grubbing county executive:
…..would have to lay off hundreds of workers, including police officers, if his proposal is not approved by the legislature.
“We would have to devastate our government. “We just don’t have the money to operate our government.”
…said the county has made enormous strides in the past few years, including seeing crime reduced and improved school test scores. He said if the county is unable to close the hole in its budget, public safety and education would suffer: “I want everybody to be clear on this: If we don’t raise taxes, we will be cutting police services, we’re going to be cutting fire/EMS.”
At the last community meeting to address the proposed tax increase, residents pushed back:
TH said she is tired of paying high county taxes and receiving what she said are inadequate public services. She complained about trash collection and said she goes to a hospital in Calvert County because it provides better service.
“I am embarrassed to say I live [here],” she said. “But you know what? I’m out. I’m going to Calvert County, where I can see how my money is spent.”
Many residents complained about what they see as excessive spending in the county government, citing county employees’ personal expense accounts, elected officials’ government-provided vehicles, the county school board’s decision to move its offices from Upper Marlboro to a new office building closer to the Beltway and [the executive's] recent trip to Africa in an effort to promote international trade at a cost of about $30,000.
[He] defended the school board move, explaining that the $36 million planned for the lease of the new building would be spread out over 10 years. Move-in costs would require an additional $8 million.
My question for them, with the school system being among one of the worst, how much worse can it get? They were right about cutting public safety because I called 911 recently to report that someone went over the guard rails on the ramp going into DC, ladies and gentlemen they put me on hold. HOLD. 4 MINUTES. 911 put me on hold before answering the call. I was done. Hung up. That simple.
Now, don’t get me wrong, our neighborhood is great, I love our neighbors and the community is beautiful, but separate from the county government issues I’d prefer a community that is more tight knit, active and closer to shopping and other active lifestyle options. I detest having to go to another county for Whole Foods, Harris Teeter or Moms Organic Market. These are things we didn’t think about when we were buying the house but I guess it’s just a part of life and knowing what you want the next time around. We’re also renting because we’re not at all interested in buying at this time because the idea of being tied to another home isn’t all that appealing. Besides, the neighborhood where we’d like to move still has SFHs in the million dollar range. Meh. We’ll pass.
But there are a few things we need to do first.
Property Taxes
We would like to start paying our property taxes on the home upfront instead of with our mortgage. So we have to call the bank to figure out how this is done. I know that our neighbour pays hers upfront as well and her reasoning is that she would rather get the interest on her money rather than give it to the bank upfront. This will also enable us to me a bit more flexible with the rent because we wouldnt have to worry about the rent covering the property taxes. The tax deduction is good enough to warrant doing this. Even though the rent might not cover the mortgage (interest and principal), the tax deducation at the end of the year makes up for it.
Save $5000 Towards Emergency Fund For House
We plan to rent a similar home when we move back to VA and want potential landlords to know that we have an emergency fund should our home back in MD be vacant for a few months. $5k should cover 3-4 months. This will further indicate that we are serious about keeping above water financially just in case our home is vacant for a few months.
Pay Off Credit Cards
When potential landlords check our credit we want them to see ZERO balances on the credit cards. That will happen by the end of March with miscellaneous accounts on track to be paid off by June/July. This in turn frees up cash and decreases debt load substantially.
We know that there’s a possibility depending on how much we rent the place for that we might lose money, maybe $200? But staying here amidst a deepening recession dealing with the incompetent nincompoops who are the county government administrators along with an overall decreased quality of life here isn’t something I can further tolerate. So instead of pissing and moaning about it, we decided to draw up a plan to make it happen. You get one life and I live it knowing that if you ask, ye shall receive.
Have any of you done this? Bought a home and then decided to rent it out instead and move elsewhere? Any ideas and advice? Thank ya much!




Oh wow, I didn't realize you were located so close to me geographically. I live in Harford County and whenever I read news out of Prince George's County it shocks me how it seems everything there is going downhill. Is it just a failure of leadership from the county executive, or what? Anyway good luck to you in your move!
Oh wow, I didn't realize you were located so close to me geographically. I live in Harford County and whenever I read news out of there it shocks me how it seems everything there is going downhill. Is it just a failure of leadership from the county executive, or what? Anyway good luck to you in your move!
Take me with you!!!!!!!!!!!! haha….I recently moved outside of DC but my damn do i miss Nothern VA! Thinking of renting out our place within the next year ourselves and moving back. Good for you guys
Do it!!! Ok I'm selfishly asking but do it LOL
I was just in the area last weekend… I don't blame you for missing it! Congratulations on the upcoming move!
Heh.
I grew up in your county.
You might want more funds available for the rental emergency fund. I say that because I have a co-worker who did the same (he upgraded to a much larger home and rented out the old one) and his old house (the current rental) was vacant for something like 8 months. This was only 2 years ago, so for most of 2007 the house was empty and he was paying 2 mortgages. Needless to say, this is severely negatively impacted his family finances. You might want a year or better available, since not only might you have the carrying costs and property taxes but also maintenance costs.
Also consider that you may not get the kind of tenant you'd like. My co-worker has a Section 8 tenant, and not only is that less desirable (yes, I said it!), but Section 8 may not cover the full note. He's losing $120 (approx.) monthly renting out his house. Mind you, the note on that house is only like $150K – max! I don't know what your note is and what kind of property (townhouse vs. SFH) but if you're guaranteed to lose $200 per month – $2400 annually – on top of carrying maintenance, property taxes, and you have the risk of an empty property for extended periods of time, that rental property emergency fund sounds a bit shallow.
Speaking as a landlord through a partnership (LLC) that I have been unwinding for the last year, what about management. If you're going to be living in NoVA, do you want to have to travel to your current city to management the property? I doubt it. Remember, for a single property, a management company will likely charge 8% – 10% of the monthly rent, and the 8% is the "we got lucky!" figure. That monthly rate is in addition to the likely upfront cost of 1 month's rent for placing a tenant (if they happen to do so). Seriously consider whether you want to try to save that management fee by doing it yourself; property management sucks unless you're a FT investor. You're already busy, and your spouse is as well IIRC, so SERIOUSLY think about this.
All of these things (and a few others) have impacted my decision to get out of the partnership I mentioned.
Honestly, if you can sell that house, you might be better off to do so. My top of the head calculation says this is a losing proposition.
Thanks Khyron you make excellent points. Waiting and selling is a consideration now especially after seeing some of the homes over the weekend. Losing money monthly is something we are prepared for (depending on how certain things fall into place) but our main issue right now is making sure that all goes as planned and if not then we will be prepared.
It might be prudent to get our home ready for resale next year hopefully when/if the market starts to look up again. Timing is key. Buy low but sell high. We'd have to Buy a place when the market is still low enough and sell when the market kicks back into gear to make sure we at least break even.
Space is an issue. We aren't an older couple that can downsize as we are planning a family in the near future. Right now our home is 3000 finished square feet and homes we've been looking at are 1600-2000 square feet and NARROW. The rooms that would be kids rooms are boxes, not bedrooms. We dont want sprawling but we have to consider resale as well and we dont want something small and hard to resell or rent when the time comes there.
Im not sure yet how the chips will fall but waiting…and then buying there next year if the market bottoms out then seems to be a better option. My husband doesnt mind moving out there rent for a year or so and then buying something else, he's just not into buying another property and being tied to both at this time. So if we sell here then we would buy there. The tax benefit is pretty good on owning a home so of course we like that but would rather own there than here.
Im rambled a bit, hope that made sense lol
Hi there – as a landlord with over 65 properties to manage, I can guarantee that your credit rating has never been so important. A good clean bill of health is what this girl likes to see!!
Thanks for the good work guys,i am glad to see finally what you have been working on all these months
Landlord Credit Report…
Just dropping in to say hi, thanks for writing….